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New, modern yurt build in Mongolia

WOW!!!! That's one very sorry sight!

"We can survive any temperatures that nature throws at us because we have our dumb stoves and plenty of solid fuel." Man it is GREAT to hear that. -39 is real cold.

My wife and I experienced -50 f Dec. 31- Jan. 1 1979. That is the official low in the Jackson Wyoming record book. We had an ice dam coming off the single glass slider in our Willow and Pearl apt kitchen. I mean a REAL Big ice wall well out onto the floor. Front door use only. No starting any vehicle without a block heater. We were in our early 20s and walked everywhere for a couple months.
 
That shit happens? ;)

No - serious now:

Really a bad situation you have had, but you are a clever guy and you made right conclusions. :cool:

Good luck in solving that all.... :)

Luckily, as an early retiree, I have time to figure it out, improve, learn etc.

Each mistake I make, I learn what NOT to do next time.

One thing I've learned is you can't rely on one system of heating on a camp. The cheap, dumb ones (semi-coke and firewood) are labour intensive. I've realised I could run the system I have efficiently IF I spend 18 hours a day monitoring and adjusting it. That's a double shift job 7 days a week in the heating season which is about 6 months! Even with my free time, that's impractical and not how I want to spend my time.

Electricity would be the easiest system in theory but only fools rely on the grid system even in a highly developed country. Didn't Texas have a big problem with inclement weather, failure of the grid and an over reliance on electricity as a means of heat?

I'm researching coal boilers now that have some level of automation. Specifically these features:

  • Thermostatically controlled blower.
  • Barometric damper.
  • An alarm that would wake the dead if there's an impending over boil.
  • Some means of monitoring/adjusting the boiler heat remotely.
  • Larger capacity for once a day cleaning and refueling.

Yesterday, I spent several hours thawing out some pipes and a radiator with a blow torch and a thermal infra red camera to "see" the ice. Not much fun but ultimately successful.

In our living situation, a thermal camera is very, very handy. I imagine it would be handy for anybody with extreme hot or cold temperatures.

Here's a progression of thawing out frozen pipes and then a big radiator in my insulated container. I find this very interesting. I hope others do too.

In the first image, the hot water is hitting ice in the feed pipe.

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Starting to progress a bit in the hot water pipe.

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It's reached the radiator.

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Finished. The radiator, feed pipe and return pipes are at operating temperature. Yay!

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Perhaps consider a Bluetti like power backup as they are also designed to run as a UPS. I use one at my yurt to stand between the outlet and my starlink so that when I am monkeying around with the electrical, it doesn't reboot it (which takes forever). Works like a charm and you can use it for other things when you don't need it to circulate heat, like in the summer.

Good luck!
 
Unfortunately a Bluetti is not in the budget. I’m faced with buying a replacement for the coal boiler because the basic model I have is a big disappointment. Largely due to the amount of maintenance it requires - almost constant for best performance.

That being said, I do have a 12v deep cycle battery, charger and inverter that would do the same job as a Bluetti - just to keep the pump going in a blackout. Maybe my solution is not as sophisticated as a Bluetti but it would more or less do the job.
 
I rebuilt my 12'6" d. yurt this fall. I added a second door opposite the front. That's ended up being super nice. In case of fire two exits beats one.

In the last couple of months I've had my grandsons and granddaughter and some small children in there for s'mores. Lots of woodstove fires. I recently lined the yurt walls with waxed canvas panels for insulation. So yeah, the second door is not only handy but peace of mind in case of fire is icing.

My 14 and 16 had a single door. Now that I know just how nice two doors is I'd never build another yurt with only one door. Just sayin.

Good luck on your redo. Merry Christmas.
 
It's quite interesting to post about our 'gers' (yurts) and I do post answers on Quora quite often about life the gers and countryside in Mongolia. Usually very few people read or comment on my posts.

However, one post recently has almost achieved viral status for some reason. The question was:

What are the advantages and disadvantages of living in a Mongolian Yurt?

My answer has gone up to 15k views so far and quite a lot of likes and comments. I'm a bit shocked that it reached that many. It's hear if you want to take a look. Obviously I don't make any money from my answers but, incidentally I might because we have a small bed-and-breakfast operation which makes us some beer money.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-...-Foster-6?comment_id=422212589&comment_type=2
 
Thanks for verifying the cost question. I did a bit more research and the basic ger from Narantuul "black" market (where most people buy their gers) costs only about $1200 for the 5-wall. This is probably very basic, no floor, no fancy paint jobs. Floorless gers are only really suitable for occasional use family summer camps or nomads who move frequently.

People tend to prefer to spend a bit more. I'll share a link:

https://mongoliabusiness.mn/buy-mongolian-yurt/

The prices are higher than Narantuul and you can upgrade quite a lot from the basic ger. However, $2000 is pretty reasonable. Obviously unfurnished and no floor. A basic wooden floor adds maybe $150 (we have them in our traditional gers). A stove is essential and for winter extra felts.
 
After a couple of years of living at our camp, it occurred to me that we need a better solution for outdoor life. Yeah, I think slow. I mean a real covered patio not just some chairs and a table taken outside then taken back inside. That was a hassle but we did it for a couple of summers. This is our third summer here.

Well, we built one and it's been a huge hit with us, family, friends and guests. Who'd have thunk it? (Probably everybody).

We mainly made it out of leftover lumber with a few new materials, like extra lumber and roofing. I used the same lumber (10cm lumber (4x4")) which I've used before for the main frame and smaller dimension lumber for the roof supports (perlins?). The roof is just light gauge steel sheet roofing, galvanized and pre-painted. We added lights and sockets. Then we built furniture out of shipping pallets and leftover materials and wool felts for cushions. We used lots of upcycled materials to keep the cost down.


At first it was just 4m L x 4m W (about 13' square) but we liked it so much we extended it another 1.8m (about 2' more) for my bikes and storage of ping-pong table which can't handle rain.

We have some lightweight nylon tarps to act as weather curtains (rain, wind and shade). We've been using it a lot until the bugs became unbearable - we've had an explosion this year - the worst being the horse flies. The old trick of burning dung seems to help. We'll get an outdoor upcycled stove soon for heat and repelling the bugs.

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We also built some stairs from one excavated level up the hill. It was a bit hazardous climbing the embankment. We added lots more lights too, mainly solar charged type. We have to think of our paying guests too.
 
After a couple of years of living at our camp, it occurred to me that we need a better solution for outdoor life.

I am involved in a project, which would be - IMHO (!) - the perfect solution for you (and many other people around the world...).
At the moment I can't talk about, except the fact, that the project is in development, and we estimate, to launch it next spring (hopefully).


BTW:

You are a very hard-working person in your retirement.... :cool:
 
It seems like it's time for my annual update. First of all, I hope the few folks reading (and responding) are having a great summer.

Our camp has had a very good year for tourists. A lot more international travellers for some reason. We haven't expanded yet because we're never overbooked. Just reasonably booked and as a family business, that's enough because we don't want to take on paid staff.

My latest modern 'ger' (yurt) improvement is automatic window openers for the crown windows. Before they had bar hinges and we had to open and close with a long pole and physically push/pull with quite a lot of effort. There were other disadvantages, such as being unable to seal the gap with insect screen. Also, the only positions were fully opened and fully closed.

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So I looked into remote control electric window openers, chain style. I chose some from aliexpress which have some extras: remote control, wifi (app) control, and rain sensor. They cost about $56 each + $17 shipping.

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These are intended for rectangular outward opening windows but I figured that I could work out how to install them on our circular crown windows.

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It took some hard work, frustration and some colourful language but I got them done all by myself. It's tricky working at height. The crown of our modern ger is 3.66m (12 feet) high. Best of all, the insect mesh creates a much tighter seal. Ironically, we've had far less bugs this summer, possibly because it's been a drier summer than usual.

The only thing I've failed to get working is the "smart" part. I haven't been able to pair the wifi controllers with the app yet. I'm guessing this could allow me to put them on timers. So, currently I'm limited to using the remote control and the rain sensors. I'll keep trying. Even if I don't, it's a great upgrade for a relatively small investment.

I'm guessing I'm not the first to implement this solution. Has anybody seen another installation like this?

In other news, I decided to start collecting our own firewood. Electricity prices doubled last November and I'd like to use more firewood and less electricity and "smokeless" coal. We used to buy firewood by the bag but the quality was awful and frequently too wet to burn. I'd have to dry it myself which sort of defeats the object. So annoyingly.

As luck would have it, recently a crew cut down a lot of trees next to us for a fire break where a high voltage line runs up and over our mountain. They took much of the lumber but left a few tons of 2 meter (6 feet) long logs, a mix of silver birch and Siberian larch. Some very long, skinny larch trunks but also some quite decent diameter silver birch. I've barely scratched the surface of the leftovers but I'm doing it bit by bit. After the cut trees are exhaused, I could start collecting fallen trees and there's hundreds of them but a bit hard to access. At least they are close by - the forest is right next to our camp.

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So I've started collecting the logs in my pickup truck, cutting them into rounds and a bit of manually splitting with a maul axe. I upgraded my tools to a gas chainsaw, instead of a borrowed electric one, and ordered a kinetic log splitter. Don't get me wrong, I like chopping wood on a small scale, but splitting potentially thousands of rounds is slow, inefficient and physically demanding.

The nice thing is for a bit of work this summer, we'll potentially have several years of of firewood. That being said, because of the high cost of heating in the last 3 winters and the hard work involved, we're almost certainly going to shut the camp down for the coldest 3 months (Dec-Feb) and become snowbirds, specifically to South Vietnam. We figured the savings on heating alone will pay at least the rental on a beach side apartment.
 
I finally figured out how to pair the wifi controller / power supply to the mobile app. Now I can add scheduled opening and closing. Also, I don't need to use the dumb remote controls and can use just my phone. Handy.

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A couple of family members asked me what happens if the power goes out and it starts raining or gets cold. I needed time to think but I do have an APC brand UPS power bank. I bought it for our Starlink but it should work on the window motors for the few seconds needed to close the windows in an emergency.

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If the whole system fails. I'd just need to disconnect a single bolt and manually close.

Another techie gizmo I've decided to get is a sensor for measuring air quality and other gases. I know we're already pretty good for pollutants (PM2.5, PM10) but I'm interested in CO and CO2 build up during heating season. The information gained could help me balance heating and ventilation to keep CO levels within comfortable levels. This one costs $16.

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I'm just spitballing but it'd be cool to write some code or use an app to open and close windows based on CO levels. This is potentially a winter problem but I'll have to see if it's a problem at all. Our ger is very porous with no membranes. Just canvas and wool felt.
 
Thanks for the update dude.

I like putting a chainsaw to work. Yeah, I've loved chainsaws ever since I first used a friends McCullogh back in the mid 1970s. INSTANT love. lol

I also love gasoline powered wood splitter. My days of bucking by hand with a bucksaw, and maul/axe splitting a cord of wood is WAAAAAAY behind me. For the last couple decades chainsaw on site, tossing into truck, chucking out of truck, splitting with 27 ton gas powered splitter, and then stack on pallets is plenty enough work. I said goodbye and good efing riddance to hand splitting nasty knotty pine a LONG time ago.

In fact NOTHING is quite as satisfying as placing the knottiest, gnarliesty, nastiest twisty grained wood that would NEVER, EVER yield under a maul, and apply 27 tons of split to it. Yeah. Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. "Take that mofo." lol The only thing better than that is tossing that nasty sumbi%$# on the fire. "BURN BABY BURN! YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWWW!!!!" lol
 
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